psychoceramics: 31337 advise!!!!

[tbyfield @ panix.com (t byfield)]

Someone recently reposted this masterpiece to my ISP's internal policy
newsgroup, and it seemed like a tidbit worth forwarding... (Headers edited
to protect the innocent reposter.)


>From: j--@p--.com (Jerome 5)
>Newsgroups: panix.policy
>Subject: >>>> Yes!! Once agane Panix Fail us. <<<<
>Date: [repost]
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>Message-ID: [repost]
>References: [repost] <4apn59$7--@p--.panix.com>
>
>>>>> Yes!! Once agane Panix Fail us. <<<<
>
>>>>> Read The ENDing, info. on HACKERS <<<<
>>>>> To ALL Panix staff READ the ENDing Please <<<<
>
>I have bin with Panix for over 2 years Now! Panix PPP service
>is new ie. I have a friend that was with PP-Line Slip service.
>I was very happy with Panix, anyway I ask her to join Panix
>because for the 2+ years now I have bin using Panix service's
>I had no real problems!. So she join panix about January 23, 1995.
>She open an PPP account for 1 FULL year! for $420.00 pay in FULL!
>
>On May 11, 1995. She try to login! She get sorry your account has
>bin ended! (some thing like that!). Keep in mine that this is now
>only 16 weeks she had the account! that she pay, $420.00 for 1
>FULL year! for.
>
>She call me and tell me that there is a problem with her login!
>" is say no access etc." I told her to "call Panix voice number
>and ask to fix it for you". About one week later she called,
>Panix Voice. A Panix RP. say to her that WE bin your account because,
>"You login to an FTP server and take some software, we track you
>doing so." hmmm now this may be true in there log! but she did
>not login for weeks!
>
>The last time she login! "The last time I login was on the 14 of
>April, Good Friday"  Now the Panix RP. say that this take place
>3 weeks ago! ie. (Taking Software's)
>
>Now one idea I tell her (Maria my friend) was, "some one hack in to
>your account! call UP Panix. login as you with your pass. and use
>your access to take the stuff off the internet server" Or Panix just
>take your $420.00 and kill your account!! "I don't know"
>
>ALL I have to say is, if some one hack into your account!! Panix
>at any time can and will say it was YOU!! and not an hacker, YOU!!
>Kill your account and will take any other money you have left in that
>account!.. Now this is no good! Panix do not look out for ther
>user's! when it comes to hacker!
>
>With PP-Line inc. InterNET servce PV! If some hacker hack in to your
>account they will change your PASS, and give you a new one! (login too)
>Now that PV. is looking out for ther user's!
>
>Now for ALL you Panix user's Please change your password every
>5 to 6 weeks (or more) ... See because of this i am ending
>my account with Panix! in the next 2 weeks! (Panix my have more
>lines than PPL! but Panix don't give a dammm about there user's
>when it comes down to hacker's)  I have bin on iRC ... Trying
>to fine out how did that hacker got my Friends password!...
>Join #2600, #hack or #inferno on iRC! fine a Elite user.
>(by asking). I must say! now i know, no system (server) on the
>interNET is safe!
>
>This is what i fined out from a[on] iRC Elite Hacker's about Panix
>system.. Panix do what is call "Shadowing" on the master password
>file. 2 shadowed passwd. is in a dir. that you all can get into.
>this file is no good by it self! But it as every user's login.
>on Panix, Panix2 etc.. system's! (No Password is in this file)
>And that is the only good thing!. The other info. I got, I don't
>think you need it!. But there is over 27 un Mask, unshadowing
>scrip that he has {he = The Elite user on iRC}. Now i'll like to
>give you some of the more real info. but! can't... I am leting
>you know this because, at this time not only you and Panix RP.
>have your login and pass.. So if and when that hacker trade that
>master file with your pass in it! and some one in your local area
>Call Panix, login as you with your pass. (And Panix taking all
>your money don't say, it did not happen to my friend and I did not
>tell YOU ALL) PLEASS.. I have bin given a lot of info. from that
>Elite user on iRC ... So Please Change your Pass every 5 to 6 weeks
>or MORE!! ... if you don't what to change your pass every time!
>Get a new interNET PV. like PP-Line, So if an hacker hack your accout
>you'll just get a new one!!!      no Lost =-= no Gain..
>
> (My friend is: Mis Maria Pl.. Panix Address : m--@p--.com )
> (You can call her if you have any info. on a better iNET PV.)
> (Better than PPL too!  718-559-2092)........................
>
>Just Looking out for you ALL. The $420.00 my friend lost with Panix,
>was hard working money. And to ALL Panix staff, I know you all can't
>STOP an hacker 100% but your User's account has bin and will be hack
>time and time agane, So Please don't take it out on your user's
>just try and make Panix's system better, and very harder to hack!...
>Because an hacker will hack the system and trade the login and pass
>with user's in any local area of Panix.. and The Sub Hacker will
>call Panix.. Yes.. by Phone.. and login with that hack info...
>Hacker's don't just come true the Back-Door!! Some times the
>Front-Door will do fine!... j--@p--.com --> end.