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(fwd) Re: Ultimate "Alien" Answers (must-read)
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- Subject: (fwd) Re: Ultimate "Alien" Answers (must-read)
- From: jameson @ ncb.gov.sg (Jameson Maxwell Cameron)
- Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 13:05:03 SST
A particularly entertaining rant combining God, UFOs and New-age stuff..
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From: c--@j--.com (cstewart)
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Subject: Re: Ultimate "Alien" Answers (must-read)
> Q: On why the US government will not release information supporting the
> existence of supernatural entities:
> On Sat, 9 Dec 1995 03:07:58 UTC, a--@a--.penet.fi (Leopold Second) wrote:
> A: It is not because Uncle Sam wants to save our relgions and culture. It
> is because they have evidence that God exists (particularly in a
> Christian/Western worldview) and to admit that in a secular and "scientific"
> society will totally erode the power of the Scientific "rational" State ,
> undermine it's authority and relevance and might result in the
> persecution of non-God believing people. Also there is the major problem
> caused by "resurection": The modern world would become irrelevant if
> people welcomed death and eternity through resurection. The capitalist
> society would colapse and workers would stop showing up for work - instead
> living off the land and spending their days in prayer or communion. Holy
> wars would be launched and all that modern man has built would come
> falling down.
>
> Q: On why "God" does not make himself clearly evident:
>
> A1: According to the Old Testament, seeing or hearing God is so
> overwhelming that it causes us pain and horror (that sounds a bit like
> abudction experiences). So God uses thought transference through prophets
> to communicate with us.
>
> A2: God does not care for the knowlegde and the intellectual quest of
> Man. All he cares about is having us believe in him on faith alone -
> which for him seperates the wheat from the chaff. Essentially, his
> priorities and values are much different from that of ours. He is kind of
> like the parent who prefers to receive an unsolicted gift of love rather
> than be given a gift merely because one is forced to or does so purely
> for material gain.
>
>
> Q: On the "Alien" explanation of resurection:
>
> A: God is a supremely knowing and powerful Alien entity. He had been
> examining and selecting human beings from a very long time ago. He has
> commited to storage our DNA and other attributes (names of saved in the
> book) and his intention is to carry out an experiment on this lonely
> planet. After the duration of his experiement. God will destroy
> everyone living on earth (kind of like flushing the petri dishes down the
> drain) and will recreate those individuals who have passed his criteria and
> whom he has stored in enternity. The future home would either be Earth
> cleansed off people or due to some future catastrophe another Planet
> where God originates or has built for us. It could also be a mini-city in
> the form of a spacecraft of immense proportions.
>
> Q: On origin of Aliens and UFOs (especially as described in Ezekiel)
>
> A: God has performed other experiments before and so has in his presence
> other forms of higher life which serve him. Satan (if he exists) could
> then be viewed as a renegade Alien with significant higher powers. There
> is also the possibility that Angels are automatons who unlike us do not
> have the knowledge of Good and Evil. In other words, robots or cyborgs
> created from other planets through intensive genetic engineering and
> selection. Angels are servants who carry out God's will on Earth and
> beyond and can change their apperance as necessary to adjust to their
> mission. Some Angels are also hominids which were pre-activated because
> of their extraordinary spiritual and religious faith/acts and were
> previously just like us hundreds, thousands and perhaps millions of years
> ago.
>
>
> Q: On why you do not have any other "game in town" except God:
>
> A: The big-bang is a lot of crap. I've never heard anyone explain well
> enough how something could come out of strictly nothing. In fact, science
> cannot ever determine the origin of the universe since to do would require
> information at T=0 or earlier during the big-bang. And since at T=0 and
> earlier there is no matter and no time so there is no information. Another
> way to put it is that applying the big-bang theory shows that at T=0 and
> earlier, everything could be since no laws or matter existed. Therefore
> one could argue that before T=0, God existed and his decision to create
> the universe at T=0 resulted in a temporary existence of a material
> reality which obeys it's natural laws. Yet, that does not disprove the
> supernatural but only temporarilly suspends it: Hence the requirement for
> Angels and other material messagers. However, when the Universe ends,
> God's prexisting law returns to action. As long as "science" claims the
> creation of the universe from "nothing" it is admitting an impossibility
> and hence allowing the existence of other infinite impossibilities at the
> neighbourhood of T=0.
>
> So, we can assume that the universe was CREATED. That Earth is not an
> accident - on this matter you have scientists claiming that it was an
> accident. Yet, if you compute the probabilities of Earth as a
> life-supporting planet (out of trillions of stellar masses) AND the
> evolution of higher life including only ONE sentient being among millions
> the odds against would overflow the math processor of my homebound 486 PC.
>
> Yet, when skeptics laugh at the concept of extra-terrestial entities from
> another distant planet they say that the odds against are too great that
> an alien entity would come here across time and space just in time to
> catch us in a modern age. Or that the odds of another planet with
> human-like beings is too great.
>
> My answer is that if a chicken could be produced that could talk, speak
> English, scrawl novels and program computers and all this happened by
> "chance". Then I can bet you all my money that there are other chickens
> just like that one (or even better). Mind you, the odd of the above
> happening is greater than the odds of a universe explained in the
> big-bang+random evolution belief of today's proud Scientists and
> proffessional skeptics.
>
> Hence, I have no choice but to belive in a super-natural existence in
> this universe. Contrary to our popular propaganda from the "System", we
> are not alone in an empty box and then we die. Instead the question left
> is what lies beyond us and if there is a resurection or an afterlife.
>
> If there is, then modern scientists have perpetuated the biggest hoax on
> Mankind.
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