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Subject: RE: THE SEARCH FOR YY-CHROMOSOMAL MAN, AND SUCH...


TO NCBI, NATIONAL CENTER FOR BIOTECHNOLOGY INFORMATION:

RE: THE SEARCH FOR YY-CHROMOSOMAL MAN, AND SUCH...
POSTED/EMAILED YESTERDAY,  THU APR 11, 1996.

I COULDN'T GET THROUGH TO THE ADDRESS YOU GAVE AT YOUR WEB SITE FOR
QUERIES AND QUESTIONS: w--@n--.nlm.nih.gov
SO I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND MY RE-ROUTING THIS QUERY THROUGH THIS AVENUE
[USER COMMENTS], AND IF NEED BE, COULD YOU PLEASE RELAY IT TO THE
ABOVEMENTIONED ADDRESS.  THANK YOU.



RE: THE SEARCH FOR YY-CHROMOSOMAL MAN, AND SUCH...



THIS HAS JUST OCCURRED TO ME, WHICH I CONSIDER OF CRUCIAL IMPORTANCE.
IT HAD OCCURRED TO ME EARLIER, BUT HAD BEEN
SUPPRESSED/OVERRIDDEN/OVERLOOKED BECAUSE OF MY INCREDULOUS MALE SEXIST
BENT: THERE IS A THIRD POSSIBILITY WITH REGARD TO YOUR DEFINITION OF Y
CHROMOSOME AND REFERENCE THEREIN TO "MAN" AS A "MALE-HETEROGAMETIC
SPECIES".

BUT FIRST, LET ME BE PROVIDE YOU WITH THE NECESSARY REFERENCES:

I GOT TO YOUR DEFINITION OF Y CHROMOSOME BY GOING THROUGH THE FOLLOWING
SEQUENCE:

1.  GET TO THE HOMEPAGE OF NCBI AT: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
2.  CLICK ON: ENTREZ SEARCH SYSTEM.
3.  CLICK ON: Find MEDLINE articles that match a given text.
4.  CLICK ON: ENTREZ MEDLINE.
5.  FOR SEARCH UNDER CURRENT QUERY, ENTER: HUMAN Y CHROMOSOME.
6.  FOR ADD TERMS TO CURRENT QUERY, ENTER: HUMAN YY-CHROMOSOMAL MALE.
7.  GO DOWN, ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE OF THE LISTING OF 200 OF 388 MATCHED
ARTICLES, TO ABOUT THE EIGHTH ARTICLE OR SO:

I.   [ON THE UK/BRITISH/ENGLISH,? SIDE:]
        LOCATE:
        Whitfield, 1995
        Sequence variation of the human Y chromosome
        Nature 378, 379-380 (1995) [96077106]

        SELECT:
        CITATION FORMAT

        CLICK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST OF MeSH TERMS:
        Y Chromosome*

II. [ON THE AMERICAN SIDE:]
        LOCATE [JUST AFTER THE ABOVE ARTICLE:]
        Hammer, 1995
        A recent common ancestry for human Y chromosome
        Nature 378, 376-378 (1995) [96077105]

        SELECT:
        CITATION FORMAT

        CLICK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST OF MeSH TERMS:
        Y Chromosome*


THE CREDENTIALS OF THE AUTHORS OF THE ABOVE ARTICLES, RESPECTIVELY, ARE:

I.      L.S. WHITFIELD, J.E. SULSTON & P.N. GOODFELLOW
        DEPARTMENT OF GENETICS, UNIVERSITY OF CAMBRIDGE, UK

II.     M.F. HAMMER
        LABORATORY OF MOLECULAR SYSTEMATICS AND EVOLUTION,
BIOSCIENCES WEST, UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA, TUCSON 85721, USA


THE INFORMATION READOUT/DEFINITION OF Y CHROMOSOME MENTIONED ABOVE IS
SHORT, SO I QUOTE IT IN FULL HERE, AS FOLLOWS:

>>      Y CHROMOSOME
>>
>>      The male sex chromosome, being the differential sex chromosome carried
>>by half >>       the male gametes and none of the female gametes
in man and in some other male->>        heterogametic species in which
the homologue of the X chromosome has been
>>      retained.       <<



... . . .

3.  GIVEN THAT THE MALE Y CHROMOSOME IS "CARRIED BY HALF THE MALE
GAMETES AND NONE OF THE FEMALE GAMETES IN MAN", OR CONVERSELY, THE
FEMALE X CHROMOSOME IS CARRIED BY HALF THE MALE GAMETES AND ALL THE
FEMALE GAMETES [?] IN MAN, IN OTHER WORDS, CONSIDERING THAT MAN
CHROMOSOMALLY/GAMETICALLY SPEAKING IS THREE-QUARTERS FEMALE
X-CHROMOSOMAL, BY SAYING "MALE-HETEROGAMETIC SPECIES IN WHICH THE
HOMOLOGUE OF THE X CHROMOSOME HAS BEEN RETAINED"YOU SEEM TO IMPLY THAT
THE HUMAN SPECIES IS ONE IN WHICH THE FEMALE X CHROMOSOME IS THE
UNIFORMLY PREVALENT GENERIC SEX DETERMINANT, WHEREBY THE MALE Y
CHROMOSOME IS MORE THE VARIABLE AND THE FEMALE X CHROMOSOME IS MORE THE
STAPLE MAINSTAY OF THE SPECIES, AND THE "NORMAL" XY-CHROMOSOMAL MALE
QUIRK OR "MALE-HETEROGAMETIC" "SEX FINGERPRINT" OF THE MALE OF THE
SPECIES IS USED AS A DISTINGUISHING FEATURE FOR CLASSIFYING THE HUMAN
SPECIES OR MAN IN RELATION/CONTRADISTINCTION TO THE FEMALE
XX-CHROMOSOMAL/FEMALE-HOMOGAMETIC UNIFORMLY PREVALENT IN MAN, AND OUT
THERE?, IN WHAT THE BBC HAS DESCRIBED AS "A SEA OF ESTROGEN" [, WHAT THE
MANNKEY HAS ALWAYS CALLED "FEMALE TERRITORY"]?  IN OTHER WORDS, ARE YOU
IMPLYING/SAYING THAT ENGLISH IS WRONG IN CALLING THE HUMAN SPECIES
"MAN", AND SHOULD INDEED INSTEAD CALL IT "WOMAN"?

SO, AGAIN, JUST WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?

YOU MIGHT SIMPLY SAY THAT "HUMAN" IS THE PREFERRED TERM, BUT YOU
ACTUALLY USED "MAN" IN THE ABOVEMENTIONED DEFINITION OF THE Y
CHROMOSOME.  AT ANY RATE, BASED ON WHAT DATA YOU HAVE NOW, WHICH IS THE
MORE CORRECT, SCIENTIFICALLY SPEAKING?, TO CALL THE HUMAN SPECIES [IN
THIS HISTORICAL LITTLE WORLD], TO A WORD: "MAN", OR "WOMAN"?  WHAT DATA
THAT HAVE ALLOWED/ENABLED/EMBOLDENED,? YOU TO MAKE A STATEMENT,S LIKE
"MALE-HETEROGAMETIC SPECIES", AND OR, "[IN WHICH THE] HOMOLOGUE OF THE X
CHROMOSOME [HAS BEEN RETAINED]"?... . . .

AND WHY, DO YOU THINK, IS IT THAT ENGLISH KEEPS TAGGING "MAN" AND "MALE"
WITH "WOMAN" AND "FEMALE"?  IS THERE ANY SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFIABLE
SUBSTANCE IN THE SEEMING ENGLISH LOGIC THAT SUGGESTS THAT "MAN" AND
"MALE" ARE THE BASIS UPON WHICH ALL OTHER [GRADATIONS OF] SEX,UALITY,IES
ARE BUILT AND OR DISCERNED AND OR EVEN POSSIBLY NAMED?  WHY IS THERE NO
CLEAR SHEERING AWAY BETWEEN THESE TWO SEXES [MALE AND FEMALE] LIKE, FOR
EXAMPLE, IN GERMAN "MANN" AND "FRAU" AND "MAENNLICH/MA"NNLICH" AND
"WEIBLICH/[THE FEMINISTS MIGHT PREFER?]FRAULICH", RESPECTIVELY, WHERE
PHONEMICALLY/PHONETICALLY/SEMANTICALLY?/EVEN, ETYMOLOGICALLY?, "MANN"
HAS PRACTICALLY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH "FRAU", AND
"MAENNLICH/MA"NNLICH" HAS PRACTICALLY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH
"FRAULICH/WEIBLICH"?

SO ENGLISH IS ALSO A GERMANIC LANGUAGE.  YET GERMAN SAYS "DER MENSCH",
SIMPLY, "HUMAN", FOR "THE HUMAN SPECIES, THE HUMAN RACE, MAN [THE
GENUS], MANKIND", AND "DIE, MENSCHHEIT", SIMPLY, "HUMANKIND", FOR "THE
HUMAN RACE, HUMANITY, MANKIND", AND FINALLY, "DER PEKINGMENSCH", SIMPLY
"[THE] PEKING HUMAN", FOR "PEKING MAN".  SO, ON THE ONE HAND, ARE YOU
SIMPLY GOING TO SAY THAT THE LOCAL SCIENCE SUGGESTS THAT ENGLISH SHOULD,
LIKE GERMAN, SIMPLY SAY "HUMAN" INSTEAD OF "MAN" [THE GENUS] FOR THE
HUMAN SPECIES, "HUMANKIND" INSTEAD OF "MANKIND", AND "[THE] PEKING
HUMAN" INSTEAD OF "PEKING MAN", AND ON THE OTHER, GOING BY THE
ABOVEGIVEN DEDUCTIONS, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT ENGLISH SHOULD INDEED BE
MORE ACCURATE [IF ONLY TWIXT THE TWAIN] TO SAY "WOMAN" INSTEAD OF "MAN"
[THE GENUS] FOR THE HUMAN SPECIES, "WOMANKIND" INSTEAD OF "MANKIND", AND
EVEN "PEKING WOMAN" INSTEAD OF "PEKING MAN"?... . . .

PLEASE REPLY.

THANK YOU.

SINCERELY

THE MANNKEY

ID PARTICULARS/MAILING ADDRESS [RESIDENCE]:

SINGAPORE NATIONAL REGISTRATION IDENTITY CARD NO.: S0016225F
SINGAPORE NRIC NAME: TUA PEK SIWANG
SEX: MALE
AGE: 45+
OCCUPATIONAL STATUS: FREEMAN
RESIDENCE [MAILING ADDRESS]: 130 PASIR RIS ST 11 #07-291
                                          SINGAPORE 510130

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